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Investors
rarely hear from fund managers
who invest in stocks and do
well consistently over extended
period of time. Mr. Thomas
Barry is one such fund manager.
He follows simple investing
approach to an arcane group
of stocks. He likes to buy
stocks before other investors
get a handle on them. He also
follows a strict sell discipline
that many of us will like
to emulate.
Q:
The micro-cap stock universe
is not well known to investors.
What is your investment philosophy?
Why should investors consider
funds that invest in these stocks?
A: Our
investment philosophy is to
focus on fast growing companies
that buy them at a price that
are cheaper than relative
to their growth rates and
relative small cap universe.
In the long term companies
with the superior earnings
growth will bring superior
returns to investors.
We track
2,000 micro cap stocks. These
stocks tend to be under followed
or not followed by the investors
at all and opportunity for
investor, who is willing to
learn about these companies
on a regular basis, to profit
from these stocks is there.
It is difficult to have a
large position in these stocks
because they do not trade
as well as large cap stocks.
We are also known for our
strict sell discipline.
One of
the great advantages of investing
in the micro cap universe
is that very few people follow
these stocks and fewer institutions
get involved in these stocks
until they get big enough
for them to buy. So we try
to buy stocks before these
stocks have following in the
analyst and brokerage community.
Less than ten percent of micro
and small cap stocks are followed
by one or more analysts and
as a result the information
advantage to fund managers
in this group of stocks is
real. We like to take advantage
of this fact in our investment
process.
The micro
cap stocks are inherently
volatile. This volatility
creates both buying opportunity
and generates risks of significant
losses. We spread the investing
risk by having as many as
hundred stocks in the portfolio.
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Q: Can
you describe your investment
process?
A: We are
looking for stocks with market
cap between $30 and $300 m
and we screen about 2,000
companies every week using
5 different quantitative models.
We rank
companies on growth and valuation
measures. We rank companies
in the deciles on the reported
latest quarterly earnings,
latest annual earnings growth
and earnings growth momentum.
These are our three growth
measures and the rest of two
are valuations measures. We
rank these stocks on the Price
to Cash flow and Price to
Earnings to the Growth ratio.
The company gets the composite
growth. This ways select the
top 200 companies based on
the composite growth.
Then we
do the fundamental analysis
on these companies and focus
on the stocks between 100
and 150 stocks. We also look
at the industry outlook and
also at the price of the stock.
We do not want to buy the
stock if the stock is declining
despite the strong fundamentals
and we do not buy the stock
that is acting abnormally,
regardless of the stock ranking
on our list. Our screens are
built on at least one analyst
following the company.
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Q: Can
you describe your sell discipline?
A:
Our sale discipline is reverse
of the purchase decision,
if a company reports worst
than expected earnings and
if it exceeds our valuation
expectations when measured
on metrics such as price to
earnings relative to the earnings
growth or price to cash flow
ratios, falls 15% below the
cost or in market value and
looses it relative strength
then we sell the stock. We
are strict adherent of this
process. In the past, few
times, it created a situation
where we beat the competition,
one during the time of tech
bubble in 2000, our 40% tech
exposure ended up as 70% exposure
by the March 2000, so we saw
on our screens, not only the
stocks were individually over
priced, but other stocks in
other industries looked attractive,
and we lowered the Tech position
from 70% to 40% and then by
the end of the year to 20%.
This gave us the annual performance
of 46% in 2002. The purchase
discipline in Oct 2002, created
opportunity when the markets
were hitting the bottoms,
several tech stocks on our
radar and we increased the
position from 19% to 29% in
2002 4Q. We are not trying
to make sector bets as we
are trying to select individual
stocks; the most and least
attractive stocks tend to
be in several sectors.
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Q: Does
the fund follow or track its
holdings and performance against
any benchmark?
A:
Historically, the fund’s performance
is compared with the Russell
2000 growth index performance.
We do not build our portfolio
on the background of any index.
Our stock picking process
is the only guideline that
we follow. While we do not
have an opinion on the number
of sectors we have in the
portfolio when any sector
holding exceeds 15% of the
portfolio and stock holdings
exceed 5% of the portfolio,
we are very cautious. Because
we have 2,000 stocks to screen
we generally have a diversified
portfolio.
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Q: How
do you construct and monitor
the portfolio? Do you like
to have sector and industry
weights according to a specific
index?
A:
We do not follow any sector
guidelines or do not hold
any macro economic view. The
portfolio is by-product of
our stock selection process.
We select 100 to 150 stocks
from the universe of 2,000
stocks and invest in 70 stocks.
We do not invest more than
2% in any stock and in general
we hold 1% position in a stock.
We are fully invested all
the time. Average stock holding
will be 0.5%. We do equal
weighting among all the stocks
we have in the portfolio.
We are picking stocks and
not making bets on sectors.
We believe that our system
works very well in finding
the companies that have earnings
growth but we do not know
which stocks will perform
well in the market. One of
the important steps in the
selection process is that
we hold on to our winners
and sell our losers. We create
realized losses in our portfolio
however; this year it will
be tough to create realized
loses because we have several
winners. We are trimming some
of the winners at this time.
There is no real design to
over or underweight sectors;
it is simply stock selection
that determines the industry
and sector weighting. We are
likely to have stocks in the
technology and health care
sectors because that is where
the stocks generally fall
in our list.
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Q: What
is your research process?
Does your research process
involve company management
visits and Wall Street analysts?
A: The
research process starts with
the quantitative analysis
of earnings; we are earnings
focused. Our quantitative
process answers questions
that we are most interested
in, such as reported earnings
growth, earnings momentum,
quality of earnings and others.
We used to visit management
and companies, and over the
years we have learned that
the process is unproductive.
The company management will
not tell us anything more
than they have told to the
public and others and what
we learned from the visits
was already a common knowledge
and many a times factored
in the stock price. We also
believe that the meetings
may bias us in the favor or
against the company. It may
affect our decision process,
the way we manage money it
is counter productive. We
pay attention to what the
financial analysts have to
say about the company but
not to their advice on what
we should do. We focus attention
to the quantitative aspect
of analysts’ discussions.
The research process is quantitative
and looks for the revenue
and earnings analyses of the
company’s business and its
competitors. This process
has worked well for us in
the past and we have no plans
to change it.
We look
at the most recent quarterly
earnings gain and compare
it with the latest annual
earnings gain. We extrapolate
these quarterly earnings to
the annual earnings with some
adjustments. The fund’s median
earnings growth for all the
companies in the fund last
12 months is 135% and the
median price to earnings for
all the companies is 31%.
Russell Growth Index is trading
at 31 times earnings with
21% of earnings growth over
the last 12 months. Since
May 2003, the micro cap fund
has been closed with the asset
of $450 million. The fund’s
asset has grown in the last
ten months to $950 million.
We have opened a similar fund
with small cal focus and we
use similar investment philosophy
and process except that the
investment focus is on companies
with market capitalization
of $100 million to $1 billion.
The fund has assets of $150
million.
“One of
the great advantages of investing
in the micro cap universe
is that very few people follow
these stocks and fewer institutions
get involved in these stocks
until they get big enough
for them to buy.”
| about:
Thomas Barry
O. THOMAS BARRY, III
is Chief Investment
Officer and Senior Executive
Vice President of BB&A.
He serves as a Senior
Portfolio Manager, member
of the Board of Directors
and a Principal Member
of the Investment Policy
Committee with over
31 years investment
experience. Mr. Barry
served as a Lieutenant,
Pilot, and Engineering
Officer for the United
States Navy. Prior to
joining the firm in
1978, he was the Senior
Investment Officer and
Portfolio Manager, as
well as a Member of
the Stock Selection
Committee, at Security
National Pacific Bank.
Mr. Barry earned a Bachelor
of Business Administration
with a Major in Economics
at the University of
Iowa. He later earned
his M.B.A. in Corporate
Finance and Accounting
at California State
University, Long Beach.
He is a Chartered Financial
Analyst charterholder,
a Chartered Investment
Counselor, and a member
of the Los Angeles Society
of Financial Analysts
and the Association
for Investment Management
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Q: Can
you share some of the recent
successes you had in the market?
A: Everybody
knows Taser International
Inc, we bought the stock seven
months before the stock started
its current ascent, and we
had full position of 2% in
Taser at $14 per share. The
stock responded to the company’s
success in getting the orders
from police and army, and
at $118 after seven months,
we sold it.
Eresearch
Technology, Inc develops software
applications and technology
consulting for the biotech
and pharmaceutical industry.
The net earnings have grown
124% over the last 12 months
and company earnings are on
track to grow at 120% in the
next 12 months and the stock
is trading at price to earnings
ratio of 35. Stock price has
gone up a bit and as a result
market cap exceeded our upper
limit of $1 billion and as
a result we have started trimming
the holding even though we
believe that stock is acting
the way we like it.
CANDELA
Corp manufactures and markets
laser for aesthetic medical
procedures. The demographics
are in the company’s favor.
Baby boomers like to engage
in the cosmetic procedure
for various cosmetics need
such as hair and vein removal,
pigment legion and scar removal.
No one wants to look old and
that is a demand driver for
the cosmetic and plastic surgery
procedures. This company had
earnings growth of 320% for
the last three years and the
current price to earnings
ratio is 30. Analyst community
is not interested in the stock.
For more than a year we own
the stock in the portfolio.
FARO Technologies
Inc makes 3D software and
measuring devices. The company’s
stock is trading with the
forward price to earnings
ratio of 38 while the company
enjoyed the earnings growth
of 382% in the last three
years and is looking to grow
at 500% in the next three
years.
Over the
years we have changed model
to make sure that we capture
the companies with rising
earnings and cash flow and
not just cheap stocks based
on PE ratio.
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Q: What
are the risks of investing
in the micro cap universe?
A: Few
investors and fewer analysts
follow the companies in this
sector. The information advantage
is real, those investors who
have the ability and patience
to collect and analyze the
information. The stocks also
are not as frequently traded
as all other market cap sectors.
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